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Matt,
Have you had any experience with Veneers that have pre-glued backs, and there ability to deal with varnuishing / water etc.
Was curious about the application of veneer over a wooden boat that had seen better days and may be an alternative to painting decks which is common in many boats over 15 years old.
Would it be at all possible to use the same method you applied without vacuum bagging on an older boat to get a good finish and seal.
Hi Andrew
My experience is, sail makers are a bit reluctant to refit numbers as it takes a while cleaning off the old ones and people are a bit shocked at the cost.
If you DIY, Mike’s advice is spot on.
I’d add a few extras.
Sometimes even with warmth the glue stays stuck to the sail.
If you leave it like that it will pick up every piece of dust and muck for miles around!
The only way to remove the glue is with acetone.
Use some rags over the numbers and pour the acetone on- do one number at a time.
The rag keeps the acetone on the surface and softens the glue into a gooey mass. After several minutes scrape off with plastic spatula.
Sometimes a second go on spots is needed.
Caution with acetone-use rubber gloves as it is harsh on skin.
Best luckMatt
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AlchemyGreat article. Congrats to the writers and photographers.
One thing that interested me was the comment that electronic compasses were allowed.
It would be good for the Sabre Association to make a ruling on these as the technology is advancing at quite a rate. Most people wouldn’t have any concerns with a digital compass as such ,however newer models have features such as ability to save way-points and can calculate VMG . Even better features will inevitably be available soon.
A ruling on exactly what will be allowed would be useful.
I’d punt for keeping compasses simple (card or basic digital)so the costs of competing are kept low which is one of the attractions of the Sabre.Matt Westland
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AlchemyHi Nic
I’d suggest varnishing if the wood is still in reasonable condition. Painting can be a pain as you need to undercoat first. If it’s a new boat I’d suggest using some 2 pack wood preservative on the raw wood first- then varnish.
Non-skid on the tops of the floor stiffeners is adequate.Hi Dave
Wow, you have started some discussion!
As the person in Tassie who first built one of these for a sabre I should explain my thinking.
Keeping the extension rigid was a way of improving the run of the mainsheet through the ratchet. With a moving extension every time it is eased the block swings across in an arc for quite a few inches before the ratchet disengages.
That’s all it does.
I checked with the measurer and the interpretation i recieved is okay so long as it doesn’t strengthen the boat.
Your idea of increasing the length probably won’t work on the Sabre, being cat rigged.
Loveday loops work on sloops, as the jib slot allows the main to be trimmed into the centre-line. Do this on a Sabre and you will kill it upwind.
As a comment on the rules it would be good to have the measurers interpretations, as they are made, added to the rules to help clarify things for the sailors.Cheers
matt
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AlchemyBelow is the updated list for this years nationals.
1 ) Fiona McCulloch
2 ) Ashley Parkinson
3 ) Andrew Graham
4 ) Robbie Graham
5 ) Wayne Bates
6 ) Russell Rooney
7 ) Phil Johnson
8 ) Steve Early
9 ) Chris Dance
10) Steve Douglas
11) Geoff Smith
12) Kirsten Smith
13) Rob Hartnett
14) Alan Riley
15) Albert Riley
16) John Petschell
17) John Dixon
18) Fiona Wilcox
19) Callum Burns
20) Andrew LittleBetween Vic, Tassie and the home fleet, should be a well attended regatta.
Fiona
Hi All,
I have space on my site at the caravan park for more tents should someone be a late starter for the Adelaide Nationals.
There is a slack mob at GLYC and now only two boats are making the trip from Gippsland. I have just launched Class Action 1741 and can’t wait to mix it with the fleet in December. It has been 13 years since I’ve sat on a sabre.
Give me a call anytime on 0412 979 824
James Frecheville 1741Andrew,
Mike has made mention on a couple of occasions on the forum he is happy to supply to Sabre association members a copy of the current building notes at a minimal price, if they own a boat and there copy has been lost prior.
Have you followed him up on this?
Ashley Parkinson
Stairway to Heaven 1590Hi Helen
That’s 1450 from the main bulkhead to the wheels. Reduce this if you want less weight on the handle.
It’s good to have the foward support under the main bulkhead as this is the strongest part of the boat.Cheers
matt
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AlchemyHi Helen
Building trolleys from steel is fine-just keep the wall thickness thin ie 1.6 or 2mm max so as to not be too heavy.
If you get the balance point too neutral it means the transom can drag on the ground if you raise the lifting handle too far. This is especially the case with small wheels. If you move the balance point too far aft it makes the boat too heavy on the handle. It’s a compromise. I have had reasonable success with rear wheels about 1450mm aft of main bulkhead. Handle seems to work well at 300 mm wide and about 590 mm off the ground. Lean it foward about 100 mm so the trolley doesn’t catch on your foot.
Any closed cell foam is okay for padding but then cover it in nylon carpet. Foam alone tends to get torn easily.The best carpet is the outdoor type that is totally nylon.
Hemp or natural fibre under reinforcing will eventually rot and fail.Best luck
Matt
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AlchemyHi Peter
I have found that glassing both sides of the bottom panels with the 2oz. a good idea. It adds very little extra weight but has the big advantage of making the panels stiffer. Stiffer panels make for more boat speed.
One trick i found useful was to glass up the panels whilst flat up to the but strap. The foward section i glassed once the boat was pulled together.
If you glass the inside foward sections whilst the panels are flat the ply becomes very stiff and trickier to haul into shape.Cheers
matt
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ZahirIt would be good to hear the reasoning of the PRO for inclusion of a starting technique for a national event that very few of the sailors are familiar with.
My understanding is that line starts are working perfectly at big national and international events around the world.
The PRO is able to use the black flag for recalcitrant fleets which pulls even the most lawless sailors into line.
Can anyone from South Australia comment on this?Cheers
matt
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