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As an observer in this debate (and having purchased a 2nd hand Sabre for my daughter) I have a question in “why is this illegal?” (anything not listed in the plans is a bit broad).
The method mentioned (I am assuming that this is accurate) with a ply-foam-glass laminate in the floor area would be easier to build, stronger, cheaper (considerably less labour in this method) cleaner to sail and easier to maintain (I have just finished hand sanding the floor of my daughters boat between the battern). The method desribed does not place the validity of any existing boats in jeopardy and will not create a rush on new boats etc as seems to be the concern, it just reflects different approaches in gaining the same result. This can be seen in countless other classes without a deterimental effect on the class.
I have long considered the Sabre to be one of the best boats of its genre in the world, this should be guarded. However there should be an element of evolution allowed as long as does not place the integrity of the class in jeopardy.
It would be a shame if the Sabre did not utilize current practices and reap the rewards (lower cost, stronger, longerlasting boats etc). For example, in replacing a Sabre boom recently it struck me as uneccesary to have the towel rail, replace the towel rail with a webbing loop (we use velcro on a 47 ft ocean racer), costs 50 cents, with a bit of lateral thinking a boom could cost half as much without tampering (indeed enhancing) the intent of the class. This is good evolution and should be encouraged.
P.S. I am not building the boat and have no vested interest past supporting my daughter.
Moveable mast steps are not permitted under Sabre rules. I have had to rule on this several times.
Phillip Johnson
National MeasurerI always car top my boats upside down with the dolley on top. The reason is that it is aerodynamically better with less tendency to blow the whole car/boat unit of the road when being passed by large trucks.
I have been doing this for a long time and have never had any problems.The above method also lowers the centre of windage and mass of the boat which is safer, particularly when cornering. The carrying of boats right side up also seems to be a modern affectation of the owners of very large vehicles which should normally be used for off road use.There, I have killed two birds with one stone.
Up the pies.Phillip Johnson
Hi Dean,
I intend to take my boat right-side up on its dolly on the roof rack. My plan is to tie the boat to the dolly then lift the boat and dolly onto the roof rack as one unit. I think the boat will be better supported and less susceptible to damage if it’s sitting on its dolly, rather than the dolly sitting on the boat. The disadvantage is that it’s a bit heavier to lift the boat and dolly at the same time.
Regards,
Alan Riley
Sabre 1564Thanks folks for all your suggestions. I have graduated to no granny ropes as my sailing ability has improved. Once I learned I didn’t have to jump over the tiller extension I stopped going into the water. Yes!
Phil did not disclose the source of his information…it is up to him to comment. A prime duty of the National Measurer is to safeguard the integrity of existing boats and one way is to ensure compliance with our rules. There is a statement in the building notes to the effect that if not mentioned in the building notes, then it is not legal. There may be a bit of subjectivity with fittings at times to fit in with practical requirements, but changing fundemental construction rules is not one of them.
Phil did disclose that the illegal boat is in Tasmania.The measurement rules were put on the web site to help people who own boats but may not have a copy of the building notes. Generally people who need more detailed information are building a boat and have or should have a set of building notes. The measurement rules were published on the web site in their current form as it was the quickest way i.e. no editing required of a large publication. It should be noted that no offers to run the web site have been made to date. The other reason that only a limited amount of information was published is because the Sabre Building Notes are a copyrighted document and the Association does not want boats being built where no building notes have been purchased.
Phillip Johnson
National MeasurerHi All
Stay tuned to the website as the Notice of Race for the 28th Sabre nationals in Hobart, Tasmania is coming real soon and we have set up a cracker of a national championship.
Sorry for any delay, as things in Tassie have been hectic.
If you are still wondering how to get down hear at a minimum cost, please refer to Barry Eastgate’s post earlier in the year or contact me on my email [email protected]
Cheers
Andrew Bradshaw
Carbon Fibre is NOT PERMITTED in the construction in the construction of Sabre Class Yachts.This includes hulls, foils and fittings. The only reinforcement for GRP construction is E Glass.
Phillip Johnson
National MeasurerThanks Barry,
The dinghy sailing of the Southport Yacht Club is actually held at the Hollywell Sailing Squadron (Runaway Bay) so they are actually one and the same.
We have a small but growing fleet of Sabres with my new boat only 2 coats of paint away from being finished. My daughter who is sailing this year in Sabots is also very keen to move to Sabres.
There are very few boats for sale in Queensland so if anybody down south is selling there boat and planning a holiday to Queensland, please post it on the Website.
Cleveland is another club about 50 minutes up the road with a fleet of Sabres.
Shane
