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Association members are always welcome to call their local measurer and/or National Measurer Phil Johnson (Refer “Contacts” on National page or relevant state page) with construction or measurement queries.
An important clarification – the measurements shown on the web site do not include the Rules (Appendix A to the Constitution of the SSAA) which are included in the Construction & Fitting Out Notes.
It should also be recognized that the Notes are specified as being part of the Rules and departures from them can result in an illegal boat.
Members can purchase a current set of notes from me for $33 inc postage. (Non members $63 including one year’s membership of their state association)
The Notes are presently under review by the State Branches and Measurers, but I do not expect there will be major departures from the current set.
This is the relevant Measurement Rule:
7.1 a. The boom shall be made from constant section round aluminium alloy 50mm diameter x 1.5, 2 or 3mm gauge.I think the term “constant section round aluminium alloy” precludes the use of stuffers, sleeves or whatever.
Mike Simpson
Mackay Multilink make a beach trolley which will suit the Sabre and is adaptable to one of their light trailers. This setup is used pretty widely in the Sabre ranks. It’s my opinion it’s a bit inadequate as it comes from the factory, and needs tailored supports and better padding for trailing any distance.
John Dixon (Iecon) does a tailored alloy, plywood & fibreglass beach trolley which fits the boat very closely and offers good support.
MRS
The rules prescribe that the “vang boom fitting is measured from the innermost edge of the fitting to the aft extremity of the mast when boom is fixed onto the mast gooseneck“.
Measurement 119 requires that this dimension be between 665 & 675 mm.
National Measurer Phil Johnson has indicated to me that he allows use of a webbing strap as long as its nearest point to the mast complies with the above range. That is, no part of the attachment may come inside 665 mm from the rear face of the mast.
The only question I can see with this is whether it is measured with the vang system in place or with the floppy end of the webbing pulled as far as possible toward the mast with the system unloaded.
I will try to clarify this with Phil and repost.
Incidentally, I believe there is a Laser keyplate fitting that will do fine for the Sabre. (Neither of the major Australian fitting manufacturers now make a keyplate but there may be a few floating round in chandlers bins.)
MRS
Beware the “catch-all” clause in the building guide:
The measurer may disqualify your boat if, in his opinion, you have endeavoured to circumvent the rules laid down, so that you may gain an advantage either in construction, rigging or fittings outside the concept of the simple, one-design dinghy.
Mike Simpson
Yep! That is our standard section!
It is an Alcan section not a Proctor!
Worth checking price with John Dixon at Iecon – he is much cheaper (about $100) but not anodised and if you’re in Vic you can pick it up saving freight.According to the details on the Binks Marine page Proctor do not have a section that matches our measurement requirements. I strongly advise don’t even think about it!
MRS
COULD ALL PROSPECTIVE ATTENDEES AT THE GLYC EASTER REGATTA PLEASE LET ME KNOW OR POST HERE?
Mike SimpsonSABRE SAILORS NOTE
The popular GLYC Easter Regatta is on again.This low key regatta conducted on the beautiful waters round Paynesville will give you a taste of the venue of the Sabre National Titles for 2008/09.
The program consists of the 11NM ‘Round Raymond Island Race’ on Saturday afternoon, a 30 NM race on Sunday for CAT5 boats, and a round the sticks’ race on Lake Victoria on Monday afternoon.
For OTB boats unable to compete in the 30NM race, two back-to-back races will be held on Sunday afternoon on Lake Victoria.Visitor fees are $22/day or $55/series.
You may like to do a bit of casual sailing in the spare surrounding hours. I recommend Duck Arm, about 2NM from launching at GLYC; Bunga Arm / Ocean Grange about 3NM+; Sperm Whale Head National Park about 2NM.
Phil Johnson and Mike Simpson are committed.
Be aware that accommodation is hard to find. I recommend you try the following sources
RESTHAVEN CP, Gilsenan St, PAYNESVILLE, may have tent spots. Ring on 5156 6342
EAGLE POINT CP (5 mins to P/ville) may have powered sites & will likely have unpowered sites. Ph 5156 6232
You might try a search thu’ http://www.gippslandlakesescapes.com.au/Accommodation/All/ for some scarce and/or expensive flats and houses. Try also Bairnsdale Motels.
BAIRNSDALE CP, 139 Princes Highway BAIRNSDALE, (Ph. 5152 4066) may have tent spots (15 mins to P/ville)
SUNLAKE HOLIDAY FLATS in Paynesville (walk to GLYC) have 2 two bedroom flats (four people) and 2 three bedroom flats (seven people) available NOW!
Lake King Waterfront CP and Allawah CP are fully booked as of 28 Feb.I’m relatively new to the class but I do like to have a bit of board (maybe 150 – 300 mm) down when running proud.
I do this because, when I look at boats behind me (it’s easier to see their attitude from dead ahead), those with their boards well up do seem to be making a lot of leeway and I think the forces being exerted to push these boats sideways would be better used to drive them forward.
I would be interested to hear what the “experts” do as I don’t get in front of them too often.
These sizes are plenty strong enough and I would only increase them for comfort. If you do increase the size of any, ensure the size chosen will fit the pulleys and cleats in the system. Drag in the system can result in some embarrassing moments.
Don’t go below 4mm for the halyard if you are not using wire with a rope tail, as there is always a little stretch in the rope regardless of what the manufacturer claims. This will settle to a minimum after the first few uses.
I don’t believe it necessary to use ultra low-stretch cordage for vang, outhaul and downhaul and you can save a few dollars by buying conventional polyester ropes for these purposes.
Chris
The clubs that come to mind are Albert SC & Albert Park YC on the lake (both these look like being seriously affected by shrinking water levels soon); Williamstown and Altona in the west; Elwood and Black Rock in the north(ish); Mordialloc a bit South. Other inland venues are Lake Sugarloaf S&BC in the north-east or Lysterfield SC in the east.
Black Rock will offer the strongest competition if that is your bent.
Storage is going to be your problem; some clubs have extensive capacity but it is usually at the end of a long, long waiting list.
I suggest you visit clubs that interest you, check out the storage possibilities, parking, fleet numbers and fee structure.
I can’t claim to have sailed many Nats but the two I have sailed are well separated..
First: Gippsland 1986
Next: Cleveland 2006
Mike Simpson
Having had a chat with Phil Johnson and spent some time modifying the Building Notes and Rules to incorporate the changes I am about to present Phil with a set of the revised notes for his review. Following that we want all the sate measurers to review them.
In the meantime and subject to Phil’s say-so, I would be confident in relocating the vang attachment on the mast to a lower level (but I’m not going to bother) but would not be replacing my towel rail.
I believe Phil would not frown on strap type attachments for vang and mainsheet blocks on the boom, but make sure the attchment for the vang cannot reach any closer to the mast than the measurement provides.
A number of measured boats have cord or strap attachments for mainsheet blocks, including my own measured in NSW, so that is probably OK.
There is presently some contention about the exact meaning of the motion, particularly that about replacement of fitting types, until another motion for clarification is raised. ,
Final advice – PROCEED SLOWLY, it is certainly not open slather!
Mike Simpson
